Sarah Bernstein: «La obediencia puede tener poder en el mundo»

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Quiz\u00e1 sea porque en realidad no soy graciosa... o porque la gente rara vez se centra en el humor. Mi intenci\u00f3n era que tuviera un poco de humor negro. No s\u00e9, tal vez fracas\u00e9 en el intento. Ese era parte de mi inter\u00e9s como escritora: jugar y tratar de eludir las expectativas que se establecen anteriormente en el texto de manera divertida.\u00a0Tal vez sea porque vivimos en un mundo tan polarizado en el que todo est\u00e1 situado en los extremos: oscuridad y tristeza, a un lado, y alegr\u00eda y luz, en el otro lado, y no vemos que esos extremos no existen, que est\u00e1n fusionados. 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L\u00f3pez Canales: Cuando te dieron el <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/gillerprize.ca\/\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">premio Giller<\/a><\/span>, el jurado dijo que era un libro inesperado y con un poderoso efecto hipn\u00f3tico. 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En cierto sentido, los libros est\u00e1n hechos de otros libros tanto como de la vida, \u00bfno? Para los escritores, estudias tu oficio leyendo y parte de eso se te mete dentro. 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Pero antes fuiste tambi\u00e9n alumna de ese tipo de talleres. \u00bfQu\u00e9 te hubiera gustado que te dijeran en ellos que nunca te dijeron?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Sarah Bernstein:<\/strong> \u00bfQu\u00e9 no me contaron? No lo s\u00e9... Pero creo que lo m\u00e1s \u00fatil de esos talleres fue que hasta el momento en que asist\u00ed a ellos siempre hab\u00eda escrito, por as\u00ed decirlo, intuitivamente. Obviamente esa intuici\u00f3n estaba formada por todo lo que hab\u00eda le\u00eddo hasta ese momento, pero no me hab\u00eda enfrentado a eso. Y creo que con el tiempo, aunque lentamente, aprend\u00ed que la escritura no es s\u00f3lo algo que sale a raudales, que es lo que siempre me hab\u00eda pasado y lo que todav\u00eda me pasa en cierto sentido. Ahora tengo una idea m\u00e1s clara de lo que estoy haciendo cuando lo hago. Ahora soy capaz de hacer una reflexi\u00f3n sobre el proceso, reconociendo lo que estoy haciendo y que hay una voz distinta que tienes que crear, que no puede ser siempre la misma y que las historias pueden estructurarse de diferentes maneras.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>David L\u00f3pez Canales: Siempre se pregunta a los escritores qu\u00e9 est\u00e1n leyendo o cu\u00e1les son sus recomendaciones, pero \u00bfqu\u00e9 has escuchado, visitado o visto recientemente que te haya gustado especialmente?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Sarah Bernstein:<\/strong> Yo soy una gran fan de <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sharon_Van_Etten\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">Sharon Van Etten<\/a><\/span>, que es una cantante de m\u00fasica rock americana, o de <em>indie rock.<\/em> Y tambi\u00e9n de Fiona Apple, porque me gustan mucho sus canciones y los ritmos sincopados de su m\u00fasica. Pero hace poco tambi\u00e9n empec\u00e9 a escuchar muchos conciertos para violonchelo de Benjamin Britten para escribir, porque me resulta dif\u00edcil hacerlo cuando hay letra en la m\u00fasica. As\u00ed que \u00faltimamente he estado buscando para escuchar m\u00fasica ligeramente melanc\u00f3lica.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>David L\u00f3pez Canales: \u00bfCu\u00e1l ser\u00eda la banda sonora de<em> Manual para la obediencia <\/em>si alguien decidiese adaptar la novela al cine?<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Sarah Bernstein:<\/strong> Uf... Depende de qui\u00e9n dirija la pel\u00edcula... Si fuera Sofia <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/libro-de-arte-cine-y-musica\/26694-ebook-el-cine-en-vivo-y-sus-tecnicas-9788417125684\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">Coppola<\/a><\/span>, ser\u00eda como un tipo de m\u00fasica rock contempor\u00e1nea, como lo hizo con <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.filmaffinity.com\/es\/film401125.html\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\"><em>Mar\u00eda Antonieta<\/em><\/a><\/span>, tipo Sharon Van Etten. 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