Richard Price: «En una casa de familia trabajadora, ser escritor no era una opción. Porque no era un trabajo. No tenías un seguro. Era como estar desempleado»

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Era como estar desempleado\u00bb","meta_description":"Laura Fern\u00e1ndez entrevista a Richard Price, escritor y guionista de \u00abThe Wire\u00bb, \u00abThe Deuce\u00bb y \u00abThe Night Of\u00bb, con motivo de \u00abL\u00e1zaro resucitado\u00bb (Random House, 2026), su novela ambientada en Harlem.","meta_keywords":"Richard Price, Laura Fern\u00e1ndez, entrevista Richard Price, L\u00e1zaro resucitado, Random House, The Wire, The Deuce, The Night Of, El visitante Stephen King, Clockers, The Wanderers, literatura norteamericana, novela negra, Harlem, Bronx, di\u00e1logos literarios, ","short_content":"<p>Supo que quer\u00eda ser escritor a los siete a\u00f1os. Pero no ten\u00eda ni la m\u00e1s remota idea de c\u00f3mo llegar hasta all\u00ed. Ve\u00eda la escritura como una especie de cima no reservada para quienes como \u00e9l hab\u00edan nacido en un barrio complicado. El barrio en cuesti\u00f3n era el Bronx. Richard Price (Nueva York, 76 a\u00f1os), el tipo que hay detr\u00e1s de \u00abThe Wire\u00bb \u2014la primera serie en considerarse literatura, y literatura \u00abdickensiana\u00bb\u2014, y de \u00abThe Deuce\u00bb \u2014la menos vista pero igual de impactante y digresiva, fabulosa, sobre el origen del porno en el Times Square de los 70\u2014, el escritor que dio vida a \u00abThe Night Of\u00bb \u2014otro cl\u00e1sico entre los cl\u00e1sicos de las series, en este caso, minimalistas, y negr\u00edsimas\u2014 y adapt\u00f3 \u00abEl visitante\u00bb de Stephen King \u2014con tan buen tino que propuls\u00f3 la novela, una de las \u00faltimas grandes de King, si no la mejor de entre las \u00faltimas\u2014, tiene un archivo mental incomparable. \u00abEs lo que pasa cuando cualquiera de mis amigos escritores piensan en una serie como \"The Wire\" o \"The Deuce\". Se dicen: \"Llama a Price, que lo sabe todo, porque lo vivi\u00f3\". Y as\u00ed es. Todo lo que se cuenta en esas series es complejo y parece real porque lo es\u00bb, confiesa. Adem\u00e1s de firmar un pu\u00f1ado de buen\u00edsimos guiones \u2014siempre muy bien acompa\u00f1ado: David Simon, Georges Pelecanos, Dennis Lehane, Ed Burns y un peque\u00f1o ilustre etc\u00e9tera\u2014, es autor de nueve novelas, entre las que figuran \u00abThe Wanderers\u00bb (1974) y \u00abClockers\u00bb (1992), ambas sentaron las bases de su fama \u2014la de un autor de cierto post-realismo sucio\u2014, especialmente la \u00faltima, que llev\u00f3 al cine Spike Lee en 1995. Entre una y otra, escribi\u00f3, Price, el guion de \u00abEl color del dinero\u00bb (1986), por el que fue nominado al \u00d3scar. Casado con la tambi\u00e9n escritora Lorraine Adams, Price reside desde hace casi 20 a\u00f1os en el Harlem, donde se ambienta su \u00faltima novela, \u00abL\u00e1zaro resucitado\u00bb (Random House, enero de 2026), un cruce de historias \u2014tan cl\u00e1sico de su obra\u2014 con un epicentro claro: el derrumbe de un edificio de apartamentos. \u00abEl derrumbe sucedi\u00f3. Yo estaba en la calle cuando pas\u00f3. Me fui para all\u00e1 directamente para intentar captarlo todo. No sab\u00eda entonces que iba a ser el punto de partida de una de mis novelas, pero sab\u00eda que ser\u00eda importante\u00bb, recuerda. As\u00ed funciona la cosa con Price. No es un periodista, es un escritor que observa el mundo a su alrededor, y luego, lo reconstruye. Para contar la verdad. O parte de ella. Siempre prestando especial atenci\u00f3n a aquello que se dice. Porque Price es un experto en di\u00e1logos. Se le considera uno de los mejores escritores de di\u00e1logos que ha existido jam\u00e1s en la historia de la literatura norteamericana. \u00abLo \u00fanico que puedo decir al respecto es que me salen solos. Podr\u00eda no dejar de escribir di\u00e1logos nunca\u00bb, dice. Pero tambi\u00e9n dice muchas m\u00e1s cosas. 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Pero uno que est\u00e1 por completo basado en hechos reales. Es decir, para construir cada una de las novelas, y cada uno de los guiones \u2014siempre dolorosamente poderosos\u2014, que ha escrito, ha salido a la calle y no ha hecho preguntas. Se ha dedicado a observar. \u00abPrimero observo, primero vivo, luego ya llegan las preguntas. Porque \u00bfqu\u00e9 clase de preguntas se me pueden ocurrir si no s\u00e9 nada cuando salgo a la calle?\u00bb, dice. Estamos juntos en Barcelona y brilla el sol. \u00abMi padre se tatu\u00f3 los brazos en Barcelona, en los a\u00f1os 30\u00bb, me dice. \u00bfLleva \u00e9l alg\u00fan tatuaje? No responde. Est\u00e1 masticando parte de su desayuno. Una tostada integral. Bebe un poco de agua. Dice que es cierto que firm\u00f3 el contrato por \u00abese libro\u00bb, el libro que hay sobre la mesa, su \u00faltima novela, <em>L\u00e1zaro resucitado<\/em> (Random House), hace 17 a\u00f1os. \u00ab\u00bfSabes? Me hab\u00eda propuesto escribir lo que me gusta llamar novelas \\\"panor\u00e1micas\\\", o novelas \\\"panorama\\\", es decir, novelas que traten de captar c\u00f3mo es vivir en depende qu\u00e9 sitio. Hab\u00eda escrito <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><em><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/literatura-contemporanea\/29055-libro-la-vida-facil-9788439721703\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">La vida f\u00e1cil<\/a><\/em><\/span>. Iba sobre el Lower East Side. Me dije: \\\"Ahora har\u00e9 lo mismo con Harlem\\\". Y me mud\u00e9 a Harlem. Pero, claro, cuando llegu\u00e9 no ten\u00eda ni idea de c\u00f3mo era vivir all\u00ed. As\u00ed que empec\u00e9 a salir a calle en busca de informaci\u00f3n. Y pas\u00f3 el tiempo. Escrib\u00ed un mont\u00f3n de guiones. Porque de algo tiene que vivir un escritor, \u00bfno?\u00bb, confiesa. Claro. Y \u00e9l ha dado en el clavo una y otra vez. Quiz\u00e1 lo que ocurri\u00f3 es que estaba en el momento adecuado en el sitio correcto. \u00abRecuerdo cuando una revista public\u00f3 en 1974 algo sobre los escritores m\u00e1s prometedores del momento. Y all\u00ed est\u00e1bamos <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/384-stephen-king\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">Stephen King<\/a><\/span> y yo. King acababa de publicar <em><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/novela-negra-misterio-y-thriller\/36123-libro-carrie-9788497595698\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">Carrie<\/a><\/span><\/em> y yo <em><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/literatura-contemporanea\/29252-libro-the-wanderers-las-pandillas-del-bronx-9788439727521\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">The Wanderers<\/a><\/span><\/em>\u00bb, dice. 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