«Ahora y en la hora» (Alfaguara, mayo de 2025), el nuevo libro del escritor colombiano Héctor Abad Faciolince, es la crónica de una infamia, de la invasión salvaje de Putin a Ucrania y del ataque ruso que allí sufrió hace dos años. Pero es, también, el relato del largo y tenebroso viaje que comenzó entonces para él, trastocando su vida por completo y sacudiéndole incluso los cimientos de la razón. Hablamos con él sobre este descenso al infierno de la guerra.
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Cuando muri\u00f3 su hijo, <a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/libro-de-biografias\/290290-ebook-umbral-9788418967108\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\"><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\">Francisco Umbral<\/span><\/a> escribi\u00f3 \u00abestamos mortalmente vivos\u00bb. En tu caso es chocante esa idea, porque sobreviviste, y aunque no hubiera motivo de celebraci\u00f3n, lo esperado, quiz\u00e1, ser\u00eda sentirse bien y muy vivo\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>H\u00e9ctor Abad Faciolince:<\/strong> Qu\u00e9 bonita esa frase de Umbral\u2026 Es que es muy raro porque cuando pasan todas estas cosas y estas coincidencias yo tuve unas sensaciones rar\u00edsimas. Como una superstici\u00f3n que se me meti\u00f3 en la cabeza, a m\u00ed, que soy racionalista y esc\u00e9ptico. Una de esas sensaciones es que yo, en realidad, cuando me ca\u00ed ah\u00ed en ese restaurante despu\u00e9s de la explosi\u00f3n efectivamente me hab\u00eda muerto. Segu\u00eda vivo sin darme cuenta de que estaba muerto. \u00bfEntiendes? Esa fantas\u00eda no era permanente, pero exist\u00eda en m\u00ed. Y la otra era que Victoria me iba a ayudar a escribir el libro porque yo no era capaz. Ella me dictaba pedazos del libro. El <em>dibbuk<\/em> de Victoria, como dicen los jud\u00edos. Estuve leyendo un libro de <a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/171779\/emanuel-swedenborg-by-emanuel-swedenborg-edited-by-michael-stanley\/\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\"><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\">Emanuel Swedenborg<\/span><\/a> que se titula <em>Del cielo y del infierno<\/em> donde dice que cuando nosotros morimos no nos damos cuenta de que estamos muertos, sino que creemos que seguimos vivos. 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Lo de Ucrania es complejo, y es doloroso. Lo que ese pa\u00eds ha sufrido durante los \u00faltimos siglos de historia es dur\u00edsimo. Lo que ellos est\u00e1n pidiendo no es nada raro. Lo que <a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/revista-lengua\/la-invasion-rusa\/vladimir-putin-masha-gessen\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\"><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\">Putin<\/span><\/a> teme no es a la OTAN, sino el mal ejemplo de un pa\u00eds muy importante en una frontera muy grande con Rusia. 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