Joe Sacco: la viñeta como campo de batalla

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marcada conciencia social surgida en buena medida de la propia historia familiar, una admiraci\u00f3n por el periodismo de investigaci\u00f3n como int\u00e9rprete del mundo y un talento natural para el dibujo se conjugaron en la figura de\u00a0<span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/5018-joe-sacco\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\">Joe Sacco<\/a><\/span> hasta convertirlo en <strong>el gran referente actual del c\u00f3mic entendido como herramienta de exploraci\u00f3n y denuncia de conflictos que asolan el planeta.<\/strong> Desde su novela gr\u00e1fica\u00a0<em>Palestina<\/em>\u00a0ha convertido la vi\u00f1eta en una ventana abierta a puntos calientes que demandan reflexi\u00f3n y emoci\u00f3n a partes iguales. La Antigua Yugoslavia (<em>Gorazde: zona protegida<\/em>, <em>El mediador<\/em>), Oriente Pr\u00f3ximo<em>\u00a0<\/em>(<em><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/comic\/29105-notas-al-pie-de-gaza-9788439722526\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\">Notas al pie de Gaza<\/a><\/span><\/em>), Irak y la India (<em><span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/comic\/37297-reportajes-9788417910402\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\">Reportajes<\/a><\/span><\/em>) e incluso la batalla del Somme (<em>La Gran Guerra<\/em>) han sido algunos de los escenarios a los que nos han llevado sus libros, nacidos por sistema de<strong> la necesidad de cuestionar los relatos oficiales y fruto de una intensa labor sobre el terreno.<\/strong> Impelido a investigar el cambio clim\u00e1tico en un marco presuntamente \u00abasequible\u00bb, visit\u00f3 algunas de las comunidades m\u00e1s remotas y heladas de los nativos americanos y se encontr\u00f3 con una realidad mucho m\u00e1s compleja y anudada de lo previsto. El resultado: <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/comic\/37312-un-tributo-a-la-tierra-9788417910884\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\"><em>Un tributo a la tierra<\/em>.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\",\"section_style\":\"\",\"align\":\"\",\"align_tablet\":\"\",\"align_mobile\":\"\",\"text_color\":\"#1a1a1a\",\"typography_typography\":\"custom\",\"typography_font_size\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"18\"},\"typography_font_size_tablet\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_font_size_mobile\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_font_family\":\"custom\",\"typography_font_family_custom\":\"Fort-Book\",\"typography_font_weight\":\"\",\"typography_text_transform\":\"\",\"typography_font_style\":\"\",\"typography_line_height\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"27\"},\"typography_line_height_tablet\":{\"unit\":\"em\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_line_height_mobile\":{\"unit\":\"em\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_letter_spacing\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_letter_spacing_tablet\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"\"},\"typography_letter_spacing_mobile\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"size\":\"\"},\"_section_style\":\"\",\"_margin\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"25\",\"right\":\"0\",\"bottom\":\"58\",\"left\":\"0\",\"isLinked\":false},\"_margin_tablet\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_margin_mobile\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_padding\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_padding_tablet\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_padding_mobile\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_animation\":\"\",\"animation_duration\":\"\",\"_css_classes\":\"\",\"_section_background\":\"\",\"_background_background\":\"\",\"_background_color\":\"\",\"_background_image\":{\"url\":\"\",\"id\":\"\"},\"_background_position\":\"\",\"_background_attachment\":\"\",\"_background_repeat\":\"\",\"_background_size\":\"\",\"_background_video_link\":\"\",\"_background_video_fallback\":{\"url\":\"\",\"id\":\"\"},\"_border_border\":\"\",\"_border_width\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_border_color\":\"\",\"_border_radius\":{\"unit\":\"px\",\"top\":\"\",\"right\":\"\",\"bottom\":\"\",\"left\":\"\",\"isLinked\":true},\"_box_shadow_box_shadow_type\":\"\",\"_box_shadow_box_shadow\":{\"horizontal\":0,\"vertical\":0,\"blur\":10,\"spread\":0,\"inset\":\"\",\"color\":\"rgba(0,0,0,0.5)\"},\"_section_responsive\":\"\",\"responsive_description\":\"\",\"hide_desktop\":\"\",\"hide_tablet\":\"\",\"hide_mobile\":\"\"},\"defaultEditSettings\":[],\"widgetType\":\"text-editor\",\"editSettings\":{}},{\"id\":\"ts02bxe\",\"elType\":\"widget\",\"isInner\":false,\"settings\":{\"section_editor\":\"\",\"editor\":\"<p><strong><em>Lengua<\/em>: Antes de nada, \u00bfc\u00f3mo se encuentra en estos peliagudos momentos de pandemia global? <\/strong><\/p><p><strong><span style=\\\"text-decoration-line: underline;\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\/\/www.penguinlibros.com\/es\/5018-joe-sacco\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\">Joe Sacco<\/a><\/span>:<\/strong>\u00a0Al trabajar ya en casa, la pandemia me ha afectado sobre todo reduciendo mis desplazamientos \u2014ahora solo cojo aviones para visitar a mi madre, que vive en la costa Este, nada de viajes promocionales\u2014 y encogiendo mi vida social, lo que ha redundado en una dedicaci\u00f3n a\u00fan m\u00e1s encarnizada a mi trabajo.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong><em>Lengua<\/em>: \u00bfC\u00f3mo arranca su historia de amor con los c\u00f3mics? \u00bfCu\u00e1les fueron los autores que le revelaron las maravillas del g\u00e9nero?<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Joe Sacco:<\/strong>\u00a0Creo que todo ni\u00f1o siente una inclinaci\u00f3n natural hacia los dibujos y los c\u00f3mics. A los seis o siete a\u00f1os ya empec\u00e9 con mis propias creaciones; tanto mi madre como mi hermana sab\u00edan dibujar y yo imitaba sus trabajos, luego pasamos a competir y nos rob\u00e1bamos mutuamente los personajes. Recuerdo que me encantaba <em>The Phantom<\/em> y los c\u00f3mics b\u00e9licos procedentes de Inglaterra y Estados Unidos, aunque devoraba cuanto ca\u00eda en mis manos. M\u00e1s adelante, cuando el humor empez\u00f3 a atraerme de forma especial y ya me hab\u00eda trasladado con mi familia de Australia a Estados Unidos, la revista <em>Mad<\/em> supuso toda una iluminaci\u00f3n en t\u00e9rminos de lo que se pod\u00eda llegar a hacer con el medio. Lo cierto es que nunca dej\u00e9 de dibujar, aunque no sospechara que alg\u00fan d\u00eda conseguir\u00eda dedicarme profesionalmente.<\/p><p><strong><em>Lengua<\/em>: Cuenta la leyenda que un desencanto con el periodismo escrito fue lo que le impuls\u00f3 a arriesgarse a intentar vivir de su afici\u00f3n. <\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Joe Sacco:<\/strong>\u00a0En cierto modo, s\u00ed. Estudi\u00e9 periodismo en la universidad con la aspiraci\u00f3n de convertirme en redactor de noticias de calado, de las que te llevan a interpretar el mundo y conocer a sus gentes, pero, tras graduarme, no encontr\u00e9 ning\u00fan empleo que me hiciera sentir que esta pasi\u00f3n mereciera la pena, todos estaban m\u00e1s cerca de la maniobra publicitaria que otra cosa. Al final arroj\u00e9 la toalla y me propuse volcarme en el dibujo como medio de subsistencia. Mis primeros pasos \u2014por entonces resid\u00eda en Berl\u00edn\u2014 fueron ilustrando p\u00f3sters de rock y portadas de discos, solo luego descubr\u00ed que exist\u00eda una escena independiente en el \u00e1mbito de los c\u00f3mics a la que poco a poco me sum\u00e9\u2026 La gran fortuna es que, con el transcurso del tiempo, acab\u00e9 siendo capaz de integrar mis dos mayores pasiones: el periodismo y los c\u00f3mics.<\/p><p><strong><em>Lengua<\/em>: La s\u00e1tira jug\u00f3 un papel muy destacado al principio de su carrera y despu\u00e9s llev\u00f3 a cabo un giro radical al centrarse en viajar a zonas de conflicto para plasmar sus experiencias en obras gr\u00e1ficas. \u00bfHubo algo en particular que lo empujara en esa nueva direcci\u00f3n? <\/strong><\/p><p><strong>Joe Sacco:<\/strong> Debo empezar diciendo que creo que todo mi trabajo sat\u00edrico ya encerraba una dimensi\u00f3n pol\u00edtica y social. 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